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After I posted my post about Dr David Baldwin’s long, incestuous, and financially lucrative relationship with the Pharmaceutical industry (see here), I was asked by (Royal college of psychiatry president) Wendy Burn to take down the post.

In messages to me on Twitter, Wendy was adamant that she totally understood my… ‘worries about people accepting money from the drug industry and willing to explore it but it doesn’t automatically make them evil’….

She also said :… “if they conceal research results. That is clearly completely wrong and I can’t understand how they could. But accepting payment for lectures ect isn’t the same….”

“….Years ago (more than 20) I accepted some money to talk to GPs about antidepressants. Didn’t affect what I said….”

I replied with :

“….You must be joking me.  Pharma has psychiatry under its thumb

Everyone seems to see this apart from you and many of your colleagues

There have been many books written about it for gods sake

Its not just my opinion

It wouldn’t be so bad, if Pharma were ethical

but they are not. They are corrupt and they have corrupted psychiatry…”

Wendy Replied With-

 

  • “..I know. And I stopped taking money because I saw how it looked…

 

I didn’t say David Baldwin was evil, I said he was a Pharma-Whore. This phrase is not my invention, I have heard it used in various forums on the internet in relation to doctors, psychiatrists and academics who do extensive work for pharmaceutical companies. Similar to the phrase Media-Whore, Pharma-Whore is an expression that has developed appropriately to describe something distinctly.

Wendy didn’t take issue with the actual Pharma-Whoring itself, nor did she seem concerned about how the Pharma-Whoring led to the (over) prescription of a drug (Seroxat) which should never have been licensed. David Baldwin was being paid by drug companies (and he still is being paid by drug companies), and at the same time he was promoting drugs like Seroxat, in the media .In 1998 – He was touting Seroxat to be – ‘one of the safest drugs ever made’.

GSK wouldn’t even have the audacity to say that Seroxat, or any other drug, for that matter, is one of the ‘safest drugs ever made’. No pharmaceutical company would have the nerve to market a statement like this. They wouldn’t be stupid, or arrogant enough, to make that claim. Nobody in their right mind would, but David had no problem saying that to the Independent Newspaper UK in 1998.

It seems that psychiatrists, academics and doctors on Pharma’s payroll play multi-purposes whilst serving Pharma’s interests: to talk up benefits, to play down risks, and to gain public trust in the drugs. They can also make outrageous soundbite statements about the drugs that Pharma can’t. None of these interests serve patient interests. David is a leading psychiatrist, he is a key opinion leader, therefore other psychiatrists, and doctors, would have believed David when he said this about Seroxat, and perhaps also patients- upon reading the article- could have believed David too.

I was prescribed Seroxat in 1998, did this influence my GP’s, and my Psychiatrist’s prescribing to me? Who knows? Who knows how much influence a statement like this had?

One thing I do know is- Seroxat is not one of the safest drugs ever made, it is perhaps one of the most dangerous. I say this from personal experience, and from the 10 years of research I have done (all of which can be read on my blog here). I know that from the multitude of patient testimonies, news articles, forums, blogs, court cases, documentaries etc etc which are all over the internet. All highlighting what a dangerous drug Seroxat/Paxil is- and always was.

Dr David Healy, said of the Seroxat Scandal, in the early 2000’s that Seroxat was ‘one of the biggest medical scandals ever’…. and he was right.

Dr Mike Shooter, the president of the Royal College of psychiatry at the time said (after seeing the shocking Panorama evidence presented about Seroxat in their documentaries about it)

“…it has huge implications, I think once again we’re seeing the SSRI’s being the focus for something much wider in psychiatry and we’re seeing psychiatry being the focus for something much.. much wider in medicine as a whole. I think, you know, a few years down the line we’re going to be talking about this with many more sorts of medication than psychotropic medication…”

And how right was he? Since that time, the entire class of SSRI’s have come under scrutiny, and the anti-psychotic class of drugs, have also proven to be unsafe too. Risperdal and Zyprexa are two particularly nasty examples. The Big Pharma’s themselves have been fined continually in regions of billions for the past decade. They have been inundated with claims of bribery, concealment of side effects, and fraud allegations.

Wendy doesn’t seem concerned about any of this. She doesn’t seem concerned that the Seroxat scandal goes right into the heart of medicine, right into the heart of psychiatric medicine in particular, and right into the heart of psychiatry.

Wendy isn’t concerned about conflicts of interest, or the kids (and adults) who died on Paxil/Seroxat, or the fact that GSK, and all the other Big Pharma’s have been caught lying about side effects, and have paid billions in fines, because of this. She doesn’t seem to be concerned that the dead bodies have been piling up from psychiatric drugs like Seroxat for almost 3 decades now.

That’s a lot of iatrogenic harm.

This doesn’t concern Wendy, she is concerned that David Baldwin, one of the most Pharma funded psychiatrists in the UK, was called a Pharma-Whore.

If Wendy, or indeed her close colleague, David Baldwin, can tell me what makes David Baldwin not a Pharma-Whore.  I would be willing to amend the post with their explanations.

I’d also like to know the sums of money that UK psychiatrists have been receiving from Pharma for the past 30 years. I’m talking about exact details, and amounts.

You know where to find me Wendy…

Thanks..

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2003/mar/17/mentalhealth.politics

The Guardian 2003-

“….Dr Baldwin declared a personal interest in Lundbeck, manufacturers of the drug Citalopram. According to the minutes, however, he did not declare his connections with five other companies, including Seroxat manufacturers SmithKline Beecham, which is now GlaxoSmithKline.

Questioned by the Guardian, he said that although it was hard to remember the detail, he did declare participating in advisory boards for SmithKline Beecham, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Eli Lilly, Organon, and Pharmacia. His department had also been funded for studies by the same five companies and he had been paid by them for speaking at symposia to other doctors about the drugs. “I mentioned all this at the meeting,” he said….”

 

 

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3 thoughts on “What Constitutes A ‘Pharma-Whore’ And What Doesn’t?

  1. So Wendy you are saying you would like the name calling label pharma-whore retracted.
    Well Mr Baldwin and his colleagues place name calling labels on people everyday and they are unretractable!

    Personally i think the label for Baldwin is too soft i would label him a pharmaceutical rapist and a lying serial murderer worse than Hitler!

    In seroxat withdrawal that went on for many years and left me unemployed and unemployable for six years i made many complaints regarding my iatrogenic horror show. In doing so not one of 6 doctors said i was suffering protracted withdrawal symptoms. Instead i got covert labels written into my notes. When i got a copy of those notes and saw it i demanded they be retracted. The reply was no they would not for they were legal documents and couldnt be changed. I then demanded copies of the clinical assessments for such insulting and offensive labels i was told they “dont exist” it was what “the clinican was thinking at the time”. When i asked for such ridiculous labels to be defined to me they remained silent.

    So heres what i ‘think at this time’ of Baldwin ..he’s a serial pharma rapist and a serial lying murderer! Hes also suffering I.E.D. -impervious to the evidence disorder and hes a pharma whore! controlled by greed.

  2. Over many years now I have communicated with the Royal College of Psychiatrists on the subject of ‘Key Opinion Leaders’ in British Psychiatry. It is still the case that there is no way of ascertaining how much of the £42 million that the Pharmaceutical Industry pays out each year may go to these Key Opinion Leaders.

    I am more than disappointed by the lack of action taken here by President Wendy Burn and indeed her predecessor Prof Sir Simon Wessely.

    The current CEO of RCPsych, Paul Rees, recently stated that College Governance on competing financial interests is “sufficiently robust”. I completely disagree.

    We need full transparency as a means of bringing an end to sponsored “education”. We need the Royal Colleges and the General Medical Council to advocate that sunshine legislation is introduced as soon as possible to the UK.

    Professor David Baldwin is one of a highly influential group in providing “Continuing Medical Education” to UK psychiatrists. The same group has had direct influence on the development of prescribing guidelines and have been supported in this by the Royal College of Psychiatrists and the British Association of Psychopharmacologists (BAP). This might be considered as the “law of the few”:

    https://holeousia.com/2017/06/11/prescribing-in-psychiatry-the-law-of-the-few/

    Having researched conflicted medicine for at least a decade I have come to conclude that far too much of ‘Evidence Based Medicine’ may in reality be ‘Industry Biased Medicine’:

    https://holeousia.com/2018/08/11/evidence-based-medicine-or-industry-biased-medicine/

    Alongside Professor David Baldwin here are some of those who would appear to be part of this “law of the few” in British Psychiatry:

    Professor Allan Young
    Professor Hamish McAllister-Williams
    Professor Guy Goodwin
    Professor Stephen Lawrie
    Professor David Nutt
    Professor Sir Robin Murray
    Professor David Taylor
    Professor Carmine Pariante
    Dr Paul D. Morrison

    In a recent communication from the the CEO of the Royal College of Psychiatrists I have been reminded of the Code of Conduct for the College that I have been a member of for quarter of a century. However, I speak up because such institutional lack of transparency has been evidenced to facilitate unrealistic medicine and prescribed harm.

    aye
    Dr Peter J Gordon
    GMC number 3468861
    (writing in a personal capacity)

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