Conor Cusack, The Irish Media Health Care Awards And GlaxoSmithKline


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The Irish media health care awards is a prestigious event held in Ireland and sponsored by GlaxoSmithKline. While it is important to honor good health care reporting, particularly in the area of mental health, surely it’s ironic that GlaxoSmithKline are sponsoring it? Glaxo have had more bad press than I’ve had hot dinners, and most of it is covered on this blog, (which will be 8 years old in January). A lot of their bad press has occurred because they made, marketed and sold an anti-depressant called Seroxat/Paxil which has damaged, maimed and killed tens of thousands worldwide.

I started this blog, partially as a reaction to my own terrible experience of Seroxat (GSK’s anti-depressant which should never have been licensed), but also in part because of the BBC panorama’s excellent reportage of the Seroxat Scandal in 2002. Panorama followed that groundbreaking documentary with no less than three more  exposes of GSK and Seroxat (unprecedented for BBC Panorama). They also covered GSK’s dubious ethics surrounding their heart attack inducing Avandia drug, GSK’s tax avoidance, and their corruption of doctors and medical specialists, in later documentaries. If anyone should be sponsoring, and receiving awards for their coverage of health care in the media it should be the BBC panorama team; Shelley Jofre, in particular.

Conor Cusack is a great advocate for mental health sufferers in Ireland, and he has been doing great work trying to bring awareness to the plight of depression sufferers for a few years now, and I admire him greatly.

Conor recently gave a talk at the Irish media health care awards (sponsored by GSK), and I wonder if Conor was aware that GSK were caught lying about the safety of their anti-depressant Seroxat for children, would he have given the talk? I have a lot of respect for Conor, and I am sure he would not have given this talk if he was informed about GSK’s history of damaging patients, particularly sufferers of mental illness. I have written about Conor’s campaigning in previous posts, and I was particulalry impressed by his views on psychiatry. I am a champion of his views.

Therefore, I would like to make it clear that this blog post is not a criticism of Conor. It is a criticism of the drug company GSK, who sponsored Conor’s talk at the media awards. I have great respect and admiration for Conor Cusack, in fact I think we would have a lot in common.

I am writing this because I wonder is Conor aware that GSK were fined 3 Billion by the US department of Justice for over a decade of corruption, unethical marketing practices, off-label prescribing, and fraud a few years ago, the full extent of which can be read on the Dept of Justice legal complaint. It makes for shocking and sobering reading. If you’re reading Conor, please read the links I am providing you.

Is Conor aware that GSK are currently embroiled in a corruption scandal which spans several countries?

Or that GSK are also neck deep in accusations concerning the use of Irish orphans as guinea pigs in care homes in the 60’s and 70’s?

There are hundreds of instances of GSK criminality, harm to patients, corruption and fraud, most of them documented on this blog, if you’re reading this Conor, please take a look at the blog archives here and educate yourself about GSK before you attend any more awards sponsored by them. For Seroxat alone, they should have had their pharmaceutical license revoked. They damaged tens of thousands of vulnerable mental health sufferers, many of them children, and many of them now dead because of GSK lies.

I wish you well Conor, you are inspiring hope for many.

But educate yourself about GSK.

Keep up the good work.

You can catch me on twitter, or e-mail truthman30@gmail.com

Thanks

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Is Dolores O’ Riordain On Psychiatric Drugs?


The Cranberries lead singer, Dolores O’Riordain, allegedly assaulted an air-hostess, and an Irish police officer, during a recent air-rage incident which made headline news world-wide. My first thoughts when hearing this news was that she was likely prescribed psychiatric medication, such as SSRI anti-depressants. Dolores has suffered from depression in the past, so it is likely that she was treated with psychiatric drugs and it’s possible that she still is. SSRI anti-depressants can cause rage, personality changes, aggression, mania and a host of other behavioral problems, I know this because I experienced it myself on Seroxat. Most people don’t realize that the worst thing you can do when you are vulnerable is look for psychiatric ‘care’. The psychiatrists put patients on a never-ending psychiatric drug/diagnosis merry go round which often leads to massive damage and early death. I hope Dolores, or her family, educate themselves on psychiatry and the damaging drugs they prescribe before its too late…


http://www.breakingnews.ie/showbiz/dolores-oriordan-being-treated-by-psychiatric-doctor-after-marriage-split-mother-reveals-650862.html

Dolores O’Riordan being treated by psychiatric doctor after marriage split, mother reveals

Irish Rock star Dolores O’Riordan has split from her husband of twenty years, and is currently being treated by a psychiatric doctor and nurse to help her cope with the stress of her marriage breakdown, her mother has revealed.

Eileen O’Riordan said her superstar daughter, who was at the centre of an alleged air rage incident this week, was currently in a “very vulnerable” place.

“She is going through a marriage separation at the moment. That’s hard for anyone,” Dolores’s mum said in an interview printed in the Limerick Leader this morning.

“She is under the care of a psychiatric doctor at the moment, a very nice lady.”

The mother of the ex Cranberries singer said her daughter was “still in Ireland” and was being closely monitored by doctors.

“She has a nurse with her and a doctor who visits every day because she can’t go out.”

Delores married former Duran Duran band tour manager Don Burton in 1994 at Holycross Abbey, Tipperary, before a lavish ceremony at the Aherlow House Hotel.

Her mother said Dolores is keeping in close contact via phone calls with her children Taylor (16), Molly (13), and Dakota (9), who are with their father in his native Canada.

“They just know that mommy isn’t well at the moment.”

Dolores, who has sold tens of millions of records with her former band the Cranberries, as well as through her solo work, was arrested by Gardai at Shannon Airport last Monday.

The 43-year old was on board an Aer Lingus flight from New York to Shannon in which she allegedly assaulted a female air stewardess by stamping on her foot. During the course of her arrest she allegedly head butted a garda and spat in his face.

However, Eileen, from Ballybricken, Co Limerick, has claimed both women are “friends”.

Dolores’s mother also described in shocking detail the moment she found her daughter in a cell in Shannon Garda station.

“Dolores was inside a room, she was lying on the floor, curled up. She had her head covered and her face covered up. She was trying to protect herself. I gave her a hug. I tried to talk to her. She didn’t realise I was there at all. I put Lourdes water on her.”

“She didn’t know who I was, she was trying to cover herself from me,” Eileen recalled.

Reflecting on the alleged air rage incident, Eileen revealed she was “waiting” for her daughter to go into some sort of psychological meltdown.

She said Dolores was been “hassled for autographs and pictures” on board the plane and “just lost it”.

“I was waiting for it, hoping that it wouldn’t happen in New York. It would be awful because she wouldn’t have the (family) support there. She is suffering from a lack of sleep over the weeks and her brain is racing all the time. She is working very hard. When she was in New York, producing a new album, she kept saying, ‘when I go home to my mother in Ireland, I will be fine’.”

— David Raleigh




www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4198816/Air-rage-diplomat-blames-overdose.html

‘Air-rage’ diplomat blames overdose

By Richard Alleyne

The diplomat who went on an alleged drink-fuelled rampage during a flight home after the 2004 tsunami has said he was suffering from flashbacks and nightmares after witnessing harrowing scenes.

Yesterday Col Peter Roberts, MBE, 51, the defence attache to Thailand, said seeing hundreds of bodies and dealing with grieving relatives was the most difficult time of his life and changed him for ever.

Almost two months after the tragedy, Roberts is alleged to have gone on a drinking binge and abused passengers and crew on a flight from Abu Dhabi to London, Isleworth Crown Court was told.

He is said to have launched into a foul-mouthed rant against the king and religion of Thailand and threatened to kill anybody who tried to restrain him.

Roberts, who denies drunkenness on an aircraft, claims his behaviour was not as a result of drinking wine, whisky and port on the plane but because of taking the anti-depressant Seroxat and the stress over the tsunami.



“Open Verdict” in Trinity College Student Cyanide Suicide Case (He had been prescribed anti-depressants)


What anti-depressant was this young man prescribed, what dose and for how long was he on the drugs?

Was he monitored for anti-depressant side effects such as suicidal thoughts, personality changes etc?

If not, why not?

and why no mention of the dangers of mixing anti-depressant’s with alcohol?

“The court heard that since January 2013, Mr Bray regularly attended the health centre in Trinity for mental health problems and had been prescribed an anti-depressant.

He told GP Dr Niamh Murphy that he had taken chemicals from the lab with the intention of harming himself but assured her that he had gotten rid of them. He subsequently reiterated this to consultant psychiatrist Dr Niamh Farrelly.”


http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/trinity-postgraduate-ashley-bray-took-cyanide-inquest-hears-1.1995598

A Trinity postgraduate student found collapsed in a corridor and then moved by a security guard, thinking he was drunk, had taken cyanide, an inquest heard.

Ashley Bray (23), a biochemistry postgrad from Surrey, England, and living at East Wall Road in Dublin 3, died on October 26th last year having been found unresponsive in the Trinity Biomedical Sciences Institute (TBSI) on Pearse Street, Dublin 2.

Dublin Coroner’s Court heard that Mr Bray, a second year student researching the prevention of tooth decay, was drinking with colleagues in Dublin city centre before his death.

He was in “good form” but his mood changed as they finished up at 3am, colleague Jonathan Bailey said. Mr Bray told him that he “wanted to die” and that he was going back to the laboratory to take cyanide.

Mr Bailey put his arms around him to stop him running off. They were then trying to persuade him to get a taxi but he ran back toward the college. Asked whether he had considered the cyanide comment “talk”, Mr Bailey said he hadn’t given “too much weight” to it.

Mr Bray went to the TBSI, where post-grads have 24-hour access, at 3.08am. Security guard Samee Khan said Mr Bray’s hands were shaking when he showed his identification. CCTV footage shows him going into a fifth floor laboratory.

After 3.30am while checking the building, Mr Khan found Mr Bray lying in a corridor asleep. He tried rousing him but he “just moaned”. He moved him to a carpeted corridor where it was warmer. “I could smell alcohol from him. I just thought he needed a rest to sleep off the alcohol,” he said.

At around 5.45am, Mr Bray was in the same place and snoring. Mr Khan noted he was cold and his pulse was slow. He finished his patrol and then rang main campus security who put him through to ambulance control.

When he went back to him, Mr Bray was unresponsive. He performed CPR until paramedics arrived, telling the coroner there was a “bitter taste” when he was doing mouth-to-mouth.

Mr Bray was taken to St James’s Hospital where attempts to resuscitate him failed.

‘Lethal’ dose of cyanide

The court heard that since January 2013, Mr Bray regularly attended the health centre in Trinity for mental health problems and had been prescribed an anti-depressant. He told GP Dr Niamh Murphy that he had taken chemicals from the lab with the intention of harming himself but assured her that he had gotten rid of them. He subsequently reiterated this to consultant psychiatrist Dr Niamh Farrelly.

Coroner Dr Brian Farrell said the main findings at postmortem were a “lethal” dose of cyanide and a “high level” of alcohol in his system.

“Cyanide is a highly toxic chemical asphyxiant which interferes with the body’s utilisation of oxygen. It can be rapidly fatal,” he said.

The court heard that potassium cyanide and other chemicals are kept in the lab in unlocked lockers. The bottle retrieved by gardaí­ appeared to be sealed. The TBSI’s Professor Martin Caffrey said the chemicals are required for research.

“Everybody is cautioned in regard to their use, their safe handling,” he said, “It is not up to me to lock things away and to require permission for people to access things. That would just make the research impossible.”

Speaking from the body of the court, the deceased’s father Clive Bray said he would not want any “knee-jerk change in laboratory practice which would make working in a laboratory more onerous” as a result of his son’s death.

Dr Farrell said the death was self-inflicted, but because there was a high level of alcohol in Mr Bray’s system, he could not say whether he was clear in his mind when he died.

The legal test for a verdict of suicide was not satisfied, he said, before returning an open verdict.

How GSK used Luxembourg and Ireland to avoid tax on $9.8bn


http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/how-gsk-used-luxembourg-and-ireland-to-avoid-tax-on-9-8bn-1.1992335

How GSK used Luxembourg and Ireland to avoid tax on $9.8bn

Assets from pharma multinational transferred to Irish subsidiary and loaned back

Luxembourg’s wealth tax is charged at a rate of 0.5 per cent per annum, meaning Glaxosmithkline may have saved $49 million on the $9.8 billion transferred to IrelandLuxembourg’s wealth tax is charged at a rate of 0.5 per cent per annum, meaning Glaxosmithkline may have saved $49 million on the $9.8 billion transferred to Ireland

Fri, Nov 7, 2014, 15:07

Glaxosmithkline, the pharmaceutical multinational that employs 1,500 people in Ireland, opened a non-trading branch in Cork into which it transferred $9.8 billion in assets as part of a Luxembourg tax structure.

The Irish branch immediately loaned the assets back to its parent in Luxembourg in return for an interest-free loan in a process that meant the $9.8 billion no longer featured when the Luxembourg’s company’s wealth tax bill was being calculated by the Luxembourg tax authorities.

The transaction was outlined in a letter from PwC Luxembourg to Marius Kohl of the tax authorities there. In the November 2008 letter the tax authority was told the Luxembourg company, Glaxosmithkline International Luxembourg Sarl, would still have $400 million in assets that would “remain” subject to the Luxembourg wealth tax. The proposal was approved by Mr Kohl on December 3rd, 2008, thereby becoming a so-called advanced tax agreement.

Luxembourg’s wealth tax is charged at a rate of 0.5 per cent per annum, meaning Glaxosmithkline may have saved $49 million on the $9.8 billion transferred to Ireland.

In the letter, PwC said the Irish branch would be tax resident in Ireland because it would have an office space, a desk, a fax, its name displayed on the premises, a telephone number that was available to the public, its own bank account and accounting records, and one manager.

“The branch manager will be provided by GSK Trading Services Ltd, a GSK company incorporated and tax resident in Ireland for an arm’s length fee.”

The tax treaty between Ireland and Luxembourg provides that in these circumstances the Irish branch of the Luxembourg company would be tax resident in Ireland, the PwC letter said.

In discussing the matter, PwC reviewed the English language and French language versions of the treaty while coming to the view that the branch was tax resident here.

Records in the Companies Registration Office in Dublin show the Irish branch of the Luxembourg company was registered here in December 2008, and closed in November 2013. The branch had an address in the Cork Airport Business Park, Cork.

The 2010 accounts for the company show it had one part-time employee in that year. Staff costs were £94,000.

A spokeswoman for Glaxosmithkline said it understood its responsibility to pay tax and that last year its global tax charge amounted to more than a fifth of its total profits. “This specific case [the Cork branch] is historic as the agreement referred to is no longer in place and the company involved has been liquidated.”

Robin Williams Had 2 Antidepressant’s In His System When He Killed Himself (Autopsy Reveals).


The mainstream media are reporting that Robin Williams had no drugs in his system when he died, but what they mean is no ‘illegal drugs’. He did have two anti-depressant’s in his system, these are legal drugs, and they can often be worse than street drugs because the (side) effects are not as well known by the public. SSRI’s do have a narcotic-like effect, and they can cause all sorts of problems, from inducing self harm, mania, akathisia, suicidal ideation, aggression, homicidal thoughts etc… Anyone on them long-term is asking for trouble…but even short term they can cause all sorts of nasty side effects….

So what were the two anti-depressant’s in his system, what doses were they? And how long was he on them? I think Robin’s family deserve to know the truth about the dangers of anti-depressant’s…

It seems that some news sites are reporting the name of one of the anti-depressant’s – Seroquel-

When authorities found Robin’s body … they saw a closed bottle of Seroquel, a drug that treats schizophrenia, bipolar disorders and depression. It was prescribed a week before he died.”

What was the other one?

What dose was he on, and how many psychiatric drugs had he been taking over the years?

This news site is reporting, both Seroquel (an A-typical anti-psychotic and mirtazapine (Remeron Zispin)

http://www.drugs.com/remeron.html

“In general, some antidepressants, especially SSRIs, can paradoxically exacerbate some peoples’ depression or anxiety or cause suicidal ideation.[55] Despite its sedating action, mirtazapine is also believed to be capable of this, and for this reason in the United States and certain other countries it carries a black box label warning of these potential effects.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetiapine

There is an emerging controversy regarding quetiapine fatalities. The deaths of at least six U.S. military veterans who were given drug cocktails including quetiapine[31] have been attributed to its inclusion by military doctors to treat PTSD. Approximately 10,000[32] lawsuits[33][34][35][36][37] against AstraZeneca for problems ranging from slurred speech and chronic insomnia to death have been filed by individuals from civilian populations.

Some have argued that additional somatic and psychiatric symptoms associated with dopaminergic super-sensitivity, including dyskinesia and acute psychosis, are common features of withdrawal in individuals treated with neuroleptics.[48][49][50][51] This has led some to suggest that the withdrawal process might itself be psychosis-mimetic, producing psychotic-like symptoms even in previously healthy patients, indicating a possible pharmacological origin of mental illness in a yet unknown percentage of patients currently and previously treated with antipsychotics. This question is unresolved, and remains a highly controversial issue among professionals in the medical and mental health communities, as well the public.[52]

http://perezhilton.com/2014-11-07-robin-williams-autopsy-results-revealed-suicide-parkinson-anxiety-paranoia/?from=post#.VF2FmNYjlo4

The first thing is that Robin was sober at the time of his death. The report stated that he only had four drugs in his system, two were anti-depressants and two were “caffeine compounds.”

However, the report also brought to light the fact that Robin was suffering from paranoia and apparently he …

“placed several wrist watches in a sock and gave them to someone because he was worried about their safe keeping.”

 


 

    Stein: Anti-depressants Gave Me Suicidal Thoughts

    Monday, August 25, 201

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    Tonight’s Emmy Awards will feature a tribute to iconic comedian and actor Robin Williams, who recently committed suicide after a lifelong battle with depression.

    Like Williams, actor Ben Stein told CBN News he also struggled with depression and thoughts of suicide.

    It’s unclear whether Williams took anti-depressants. But Stein said those drugs played a dangerous role in his personal battle with depression. He said the closest he came to actually taking his own life were the times he was taking anti-depressants.

    “The absolute worst I’ve ever felt in my entire life was under the influence of two drugs called Thorazine and Mellaril,” he said. “That was a long, long time ago, when they were supposed to make you feel better and yet, suicidal thoughts – they had the exact opposite effect and I really came close to death,” Stein told CBN Health and Science reporter Lorie Johnson.

    And then within the last several years, a drug called Wellbutrin, which is a well-known anti-depressant was prescribed to me and it actually worked quite well for about two weeks. And then I felt an overwhelming compulsion to commit suicide and I stopped taking it and it went away,” Stein said.

    Stein said he has kept his depression and thoughts of suicide at bay through prayer, rest, and fresh air, and getting in a 12-step program.

    “Unless there’s some gigantic breakthrough I’m unaware of, I would never think of touching anti-depressants again. That being said, if they work for other people, God bless ‘em,” Stein said.

    Wrapping Up 2014..


    In January 2015, this blog will be 8 years old. I have blogged consistently during that time  with genuine conviction, about issues which I think are extremely important, but in particular, I have drawn attention to GSK’s unethical promotion of their dangerous and defective anti-depressant, Seroxat (Paxil). However, as anyone can see, from reading the hundreds of posts on this blog, GSK’s sinister activities have gone far beyond Seroxat marketing, bogus drugs and deception.

    I will be wrapping up this blog by the end of the year, and I don’t plan to post anything after January 2015, 8 years is enough I think, I have done more than my fair share, and maybe it’s time for others to do their bit. I will leave the blog online though, as I think it’s an extremely important resource, for researchers, patients etc.

    Furthermore, I was recently contacted by an anonymous source who is seeking information on GSK and Burroughs Wellcome (a previous incarnation of the company) and their involvement in possible illegal and unethical vaccine trials on Irish orphans. If anyone out there has any information on these trials or anything related to them, can you contact me on truthman30@gmail.com and I will pass on the relevant details to the researchers.

    In particular, some of the information sought is in regards to the following issues:

    1. Were there additional trials in Ireland?
    2. Were there similar trials in England or elsewhere in the world?
    3. Is there any evidence of money changing hands between the government/health boards/religious orders and the pharmaceutical companies?
    4. Can any inference be drawn from the way the Vaccine Trials Division of the Commission of Inquiry Into Child Abuse was shut down and the Government relationship with GSK?

     

    If anyone out there has any information on any of the above, or anything that they feel might be of use in getting to the bottom of these drug trials on Irish orphans, contact me on the e-mail provided, through twitter, or leave a comment.

    I won’t be doing any more posting after Christmas, as to be honest, it’s just too time consuming and not feasible to blog anymore. I also had a recent personal experience that I found very disturbing. I won’t go into details about this horrendous event, but what I will say is, I am more than capable of defending myself, but I refuse to respond to bully boy tactics, and veiled threats, I abhor that kind of behavior, and I always disengage when bullies try those tactics on me. The experience was related to this blog and the value of the work I do, and this onerous episode has really been the catalyst for making the decision to give up blogging. Writing a blog, and dealing with the stuff I research, really can be a thankless, lonely role,  at times. However I don’t regret one minute of it, or one post I made, as I know now I have made a  huge difference and the truth is now self evident, and that was the point…

    Thanks for reading..

    Ian Hudson Bumbles His Way Through A Grilling In A Tamiflu Inquiry


    If you want to see how people like the MHRA’s Ian Hudson run rings around public inquiries in regards to dubious drugs (in this case Roche’s Tamiflu) check out this recent video on the Tamiflu debacle.

    It”s all very monty python-esque, and in true British style, nobody is held to account for a waste of over half a billion of UK tax-payers money on a useless drug for a fake pandemic..

     At least he turned up to this inquiry I suppose, because he didn’t bother to turn up to the Seroxat inquiry many years ago and the explanation for his absence was even more dubious than a dose of Tamiflu or Seroxat…

    http://seroxatsecrets.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/mhra-and-ian-hudson-still-questions-to-be-answered/

    The strange thing is that on the day the House of Commons Health Select Committee wanted to hear evidence from the MHRA specifically about Seroxat trial data and safety, Professor Alaisdair Breckenridge (MHRA Chairman), Professor Kent Woods (MHRA CEO) and June Raine (MHRA Director of Vigilence and Risk Management) all managed to attend the hearing.

    MPs had expected to be able to question Ian Hudsonas well… unfortunately Dr Hudson could not attend as he had a prior engagement.

    Scroll to around 17.18.30 on the video and watch Ian Hudson avoid answering questions about Tamiflu.

    http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=16130


    From Bob Fiddaman at Seroxat Sufferers Blog

    http://fiddaman.blogspot.ie/2014/10/mhras-ian-hudson-grilled-over-clinical.html?spref=tw

     

    Tuesday, October 21, 2014

    MHRA’s Ian Hudson Grilled Over Clinical Trial Data

    Yesterday [Monday 20 October] UK Parliament broadcast a committee meeting regarding Tamiflu, a prescription medicine used to treat the flu (influenza) in people 2 weeks of age and older.

    In January this year, drawing attention to the lack of transparency over the results of clinical trials of the antiviral medicine, stockpiled for use in an influenza epidemic.  The Commons Select Committee concluded that the failure of manufacturers to share the full results of clinical trials with doctors, researchers and clinicians, undermined their ability to make informed decisions about treatments and the use of medicines by the NHS.

    Yesterdays meeting probed the lack of transparency further.

    It’s very interesting particularly as we can see Chief Executive of the MHRA, Ian Hudson, being grilled by Richard Bacon, MP. Hudson was asked just one question but seemed very reluctant to give any straight forward answers.

    Basically, the UK government have claimed that it would not be feasible for the full methods and results of clinical trials to be made available to doctors and other healthcare professionals.

    Ian Hudson was asked why he thought it was not feasible.

    The exchange between Hudson and Richard Bacon, MP reminded me of David Brent, a fictional character played by Ricky Gervais in The Office. Brent, when questioned about his management methods was always evasive – Hudson’s response to Bacon’s question is so very similar. Whereas Brent speaks of pies and charts, Hudson speaks of Freedom of Information requests and policies…without actually answering the question.

    Hudson is being really evasive here, just as he was when giving evidence for GlaxoSmithKline in a video deposition back in 2000. [1]  Hudson, was employed as GlaxoSmithKline’s World Safety Officer before eventually landing his role of CEO of the agency that protects the public from unsafe prescription medication.

    Time and time again he avoids the question put to him by Bacon, time and time again Bacon reiterates his question, leaving Hudson to waffle on in the style of David Brent. You can even see a man and a woman at the back of the room laugh at Hudson’s avoidance to answer a simple question.

    Kind of ironic that Hudson is being grilled by an MP whose surname is Bacon, doncha think? :-)

    Here’s the MHRA’s Ian Hudson playing David Brent yesterday [Skip to 17.44.46] [LINK]

    Just like The Office there is no canned laughter.

    Now compare with David Brent.

    Bob Fiddaman.